Wednesday, December 10, 2008
Addtional things to check out -
About the readers:
About Google Books:
Google Scholar (beta):
Picasa Photo Gallery:
Wednesday, December 3, 2008
a video how to:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnploFsS_tY
Interesting little slide show:http://picasaweb.google.com/armannh/Vestmannaeyjar?feat=featured#5225895946201158610
It's not all that hard to figure some of this stuff out, it's just learning how to drive the thing and finding out where everything is. I'm driving my dear friends nuts with some options that automatically send out things via email to them, when I don't realize to unclick sending a post to upload or do certain things. Some options send notifications. That would drive me berzerk!
The google logo slideshow to the left of the screen (left at least at the time of this posting), is only a temporary set up because I rushed away the other day, having to leave it with a blank. This will do in the way of putting Picassa (photo server/software) in there for now. There are a couple of other options for the server/software in the dropdown box too, but we'll just start out playing with the Picassa since that's part of the Google set up use (for now). At least we know if there are those who have other places they keep albums, it's an option too.
I keep saying I'm going to get on the gallery aspect of the website. I am. I was actually waiting for a back up drive for my birthday so I can get things copied out of places all over the place and have them in one location so I can get a gallery set up. I guess for starters, since I set up the account the other day, I'll check out how to get a few things in there to put in place and how they work on the various formats available with Google, the sites, webpages, and so on. So far, I've sprinkled little gadgets here and there throughout this experiment test site, but they're commercialized, not personal shots of any kind, of course. It's just something to tickle the eyes while reading.
The HearthStone newsletter was the actual first subdomain (site) I created in the website. It has a few good options on it, such as the 'table of contents', which works well as headings, subs, etc., are set up on the fonts of the content. It gives a good and easy quick reference, plus a quick link to that particular spot on the site.
I added a collaborative couple of power point windows. The presentations in them are moot, one with pictures, a few texts, and they click over.
While the HearthStone is an invention of gathering news, announcements, possible articles, points of views, editorials and so on, it's worth considering it's collaborative central point of works that a community can work together to do. The workshop, if you will.
I would hope it is something others would partake in, not another area of constant work solely on my part to do. I hope if it's a good thought, it can be created in the actual protogrove website as either a part of the primary site, or a subdomain. I can see it as a primary part of the website, using a subdomain (as a workshop area, or newsroom) to create many of it's works to be carried into the main site for publishing. Something like that idea.
I did find a question on one of the help lists on google, that interested me and that I've been wondering about. Someone asked if you can use your own software to create portions of the website and add it into google apps. Google apps help response was no, but that one could use his/her own software, add it in directly to their domain, and somehow attach the google apps into the domain as well. I have to take a closer look at exactly what that is supposed to do and how to do it!
There are a couple of things I'm not entirely thrilled with. I don't like that I have to sign into so many different areas, such as the sites, the website, the egroup, the email, the blog, each has its' own area requiring separate sign-ins! GADS! Bother, bluck! It would work out better if they had an admin set up where I could click on all the permissions for which type of log in. That way you're either in or not in certain areas. Either the option would show up, or it wouldn't if you have access or if you don't. This is something I'm wondering if premiere level accounts have or not.
I also need to look into setting up the readers access on each page, for syndication purposes, what have you.
Well, let me dash for now.
Monday, December 1, 2008
I'll try to keep this in list form to a degree to make it a quicker posting and quicker read. (I've worked enough on it for today):
Invited a long time friend who is active and also helpful to assist.
Have tried to fix access for Aige, Nan, and Todd with changing, adding, or rearranging acct stuff.
Looked around at some of the HearthStone (newsletter) options for a working, collaborative 'site' area created for use as a group/EDPG newsletter and work in progress thing.
Have noted a site question that is of interest for the actual website options for our domain, and have posted link about it on the egroup.
I still need to do further investigation on the picassa gallery option for the site too so we can get photos and videos set up somehow.
I'm sure I've a list of other things I've worked on today and last night and night before that, regarding the site, groups, etc., but have need to make for the kitchen right now!
I am making turkey enchiladeas and will also use a picture of the latest progress to the cattery that my 'Other' was working on as I sat on my but at the computer today.
I am thrilled that I have two days off in a row!
Thursday, November 20, 2008
You may need to turn down the volume before playing!
The story is about Life as described by two young children who carry on a conversation between themselves and what they hope for when they grow up. The actual video at length tells the story in the French-Canadian language, so the translation was briefly capsuled to me. Thus, as this is a few seconds long, you won't even hear them speak. This video of the circular water fountain as it is sporatically dispersing drips of water into this pool as we look downward upon it and watch the video (a video of a video, as it were) shows many changes of the sky and earth, a beach and shore, boats, and so on, very beautiful and thought-provoking about what is in store for our futures, if living 'green'. This is very much like the experience of a scrying pool, the 'visionary' point is well taken with the Visionary Garden. I've never seen or experienced anything before or after, quite like this.
I added the comments option to the blog.
I'll add the 'subscribe to reader' option later, due to the sleep time I'm now lacking.
I have a load of links to things I've looked at and read some on this evening. I'll be posting those on the egroup.
I did some further reading and looking into the graphics.
I'll be looking into the Picassa for the gallery and also Picasa widget for random pictures to be put around on the webpages, if possible.
Tuesday, November 18, 2008
Thursday, November 13, 2008
The option is not available for shockwave and that type of htm- htx somethings..etc, so it was an error and I had to remove it.
I will get out of here and try to embed it somewhere else to check it.
In the egroup, I've finally figured out that at the top of each page that's created for the egroups subdivided areas, I will need to include the link of the website where we want it to go to. Currently on the 'Other stuff' page I created for the egroup where other topics and announcements outside the testing topic are posted, I did happen to put the druidpolarity website link. I will need to limit that and make the change to reflect the PG website.
I've been holding off starting the google apps section for the PG's website because of the business of my own personal schedule, working in the tests at this set of gadgets, etc., until I have a good feel of how to drive things and less difficulty getting the stuff put together for the PG.
I've also held off, hoping that we would be eligible to submit our application as a PrvG to the Mother Grove, thereby becoming a non-profit and eligible for the free status of the Premium package offered by Google Apps and with that, more options for the Protogrove. That would be a savings of $50 for our grove! Otherwise, during these very difficult economic times, I will need to figure out how to help the PG to come up with that $50 so we can take better advantage of more options for the PG website. We have a little cash stash, but we will be needing to renew our P.O. box very shortly too.
The MSN server is not going to handle 'groups' after February 2009, so now we need to actually rush to remove, copy and save our stuff.
In additon to all the above, I did a little thing of creating something or looking at the 'sites' feature, which I didn't realize was yet another separate feature of the Google Apps; I thought that was what I was actually already doing. I'll report back more on that, as it's been a good week since I've looked at it and need to refresh my memory about the findings and see if there's a lot more to learn regarding those features.
The one thing I really wish to do is to get all of the log-ins tied together so there isn't one after another sign on, sign on, and sign on. There must be a one log on feature somehow and I'll have to either search for it or inquire.
The sites, as I do recall, is the area that allows the website users to create their own site and pages for inclusion of their own personal data, material, etc.
Sites may also be the more extensive area used for 'collaboration' but I'll have to review if this is true.
There is a 'teaching/classes' feature somewhere on here that I spotted while I was already in the middle of another operation at the time, so I'll be on the hunt for that too. Here's being hopeful!
That's it for now. A busy day while we have a PG celebration 5th anniversary, also a birthday to celebrate tonight for one of its' members.
Sunday, November 9, 2008
I'll be looking the Multiply groups service over during this week, but what I've seen at-a-glance already is that it's offering what appears to be many of the Google Options, but so far, I haven't seen all of the options. Of course, it's not any time at all in a lot of areas where these things get duplicated.
I'm relieved that I've already been working in this direction of transitioning out of MSN altogether so we can use our entire website for several purposes instead of just a one page explanation, plus the additional obvious added features for it's members and friends who log on to visit our pages of material.
I haven't had time to devote any addtional work to the test site during the past few weeks for further options to learn more about Google Apps. Since my next move was to work on exploring the 'sites' feature, I'll try to see if that is a good tie-in endeavor. The ultimate thing is the collaborative areas and the use of the calendar sharing and any set-ups for online workshops, which would include sharable chats, possible whiteboards, and document sharing along with archiving.
We want to actually keep it neat and simple where and whenever possible.
In addition, let's not forget the gallery and including audio/video features for graphics and sound files.
As for the content on the current 2 egroups of the protogrove's, I'll be copying content out as quickly as possible for any records, docuements, links, photos and so on. We may need and want them.
This is it for now.
Friday, November 7, 2008
That said, first, yes, it's been some weeks since I've posted, need I mentioin this time of year gets thoroughly hectic for some and for me much more than more times of the years. It's true, through the major holidays, one right after another --I should emphasize that as the commercial holidays, not meaning our High Days, as they're consistently observed *approximately every 6 weeks throughout the year.
Just to say, I just noticed that the home of our current Enchanted Desert Protogrove, ADF is on MSN where I've been working toward trying to get us off and onto our own website ---the MSN server has announced to everyone that they are not continuing 'groups' service after February, 2009. I'm happy I've already been working to get the Protogrove's site moved. It's still in the works, however.
I'll be posting more here shortly, I'm having yet another interruption in my posting right now.
Saturday, October 18, 2008
First off, it would help if I have a good block of time while also actually rested, when people in my life won't get perterbed at me for spending all my time on the computer.
That said, everytime I have to push back from this work to get this 'simple' snap-in type website pulled together, I have to re-figure out seemingly simple tasks.
Here are a couple of things I've found on re-entering the website.
First off, the handful of people I wished would help out to test and collaborate don't seem to have the time or inclination, except one, perhaps two (a ghost viewer who logged on). That's just for now. I'm sure that will change if we can get the 'work' part off the ground and get the fun stuff rolling.
The work part is the part that only I can do from this end anyway.
The fun stuff would be working together on some projects, but all the gadgets and things hooked up to manipulate with for the collaborators networking with me to get projects done.
Next, as I got back on, I discovered that I guess I've hidden the egroup from us, or I just don't know where to find it.
It was a bit confusing trying to figure out if the egroup and the email are basically one in the same, however, I know I set up a colorful template for it and played with it for a long while the other day.
The additional facet of discovery I've made is referring to this interest website:
building a mobil site (video - long, 45 min)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4dV9nIpHes&feature=related
Site building tips, hints, and helps, plus added info, eg., listings, contents, etc.http://www.2createawebsite.com/traffic/
So, the latter of the two, traffic and tips, etc. is the one I'd like to first focus on, with regard to content.
It does warn against just using links to make references unless you are also adding in your own unique content as well.
Traffic isn't a huge emphasis to me for this test site, but the tips are good to know with regard to quality of content, etc., which is important at the end production.
The mobile hook-up is very ambitious, but realistic, which would be much later and possible a good project to work on for the members together. Why? Truth is, there are people out there who utilize online strictly via their phones, so why not?
I know of one person right now, who stays in contact with me via the phone and contacting my email address. Yes, he's pagan and it's a worthy cause.
One good thing about the mobile connection would be how it streamlines, keeping sites very simple for loading purposes of the entry-level type phones.
We'll talk about all of that later, but there are some excellent articles and videos on google via youtube to refer to about all of these things.
For the Nine Virtues pages, I've done the very thing the article about traffic recommends 'against'. Seeing as I do have an actual work in progress on that standpoint that is in rough draft, I intend on etching it out on that 9 virtues page which is actually my own work and hopefully a UNIQUE idea or perspective of some type. At least I haven't seen it written out anywhere else.
The links about those subjects are some reference points for the reader of that page and material who may be new to the approach inasfaras searching for their spiritual path, or who is an entry-level Dedicant in the DP of the ADF: A Druid Fellowship.
As all personal websites do have similarities, mine will include the DP work as well, and it is a sampled area for the site.
More later on updates and additions to the test site for EDPG!
Friday, October 10, 2008
I was editing the egroup pages to set a link to the main page on each one of those pages, also I posted a short bit or not much on a couple of posts. When I finished, it gave a prompt for me to either skip a generic message or to send a message to the members telling them about the post or change to the page.
It's the first time I've really noticed that.
If you've been receiving emails directly from the egroup or website, that are not of a direct nature, or appear to be generic and repeating, please let me know. I will be on the look out for a way to disengage that annoying setting if it's possible. It's not an option I would intentionally send out on every single post or change to the site or egroup.
Thursday, October 9, 2008
I have to say for a snap-in website, the newly created webpage worked out fine.
I didn't create any text of my own, rather, I checked around so on some of the gadgets again. Pretty nifty!
I inserted some links on the subject I have in mind is material that's useful and should be acceptable to ADF. In the meantime, I simply decided to keep it simple for now. I will write some more later.
I also need to locate some type of removal button to help remove pictures I posted on this blog. since I had to leave for work, I'll put it off for another day.
Tuesday, October 7, 2008
Apparently there is some studying about how to place photos into the blog, as they were supposed to be put in at the text where I mention the Las Cruces Pagan Pride Day. Or at least that's what I thought.
Those are photos taken of our Enchanted Desert Protogrove, ADF's information booth.
All that to say, I was trying to place the photos of last years PPD on a particular spot within the context of that last blog, but they just situated whereever they chose.
I have had wonderful contact with several other wonderful individuals, however, who have very enriching and supportive and creative attitudes.
Ritual is very enriching these days. The rains continue in a nice flow from time-to-time and with these things, I thank Brigit, Lugh, Taranis and Cernunnos.
My days off are at an end for this week, so getting this done will now move back to the mode of in pinches and snaps of time.
Studying is actually the priority (next Sunday at the meetNgreet & DP) and preparing for the next High Day: Samhain (31 October, 2008), then our 5th founding day anniversary of the Protogrove (13 November, 2008)!
Monday, October 6, 2008
I'll have to figure it out later. I've been working steady on all of this all day to look for little areas that would work well.
I received some discouraging words, but have the nerve to keep going even in the variables of isolation.
I am hopeful that by the time I complete the test area, we may well have enough data and knowledge to set up a clean-looking and great collaborative site for the Protogrove.
At the risk of jumping out there, we will need the collaboration soon, very soon, as working on the By-laws should be the next steps for the Protogrove.
Looking forward to hearing from those of you who have time and care.
The Settings look promising, although I haven't bothered with them for this test area. For the Protogrove, however, it may be a great other end way to gain exposure for those who wish to read in, for publishing, and so on.
If you have time or interest, you may wish to take a look at these e-blog settings for yourself.
For now, I will continue to focus primarily with setting up the main website for more tests.
Please give your suggestions.
One primary goal, as previously mentioned, will be learning if there more options for making the Protogrove's website as seamless and enjoyable an experience as possible. After all, an interactive learning environment is very important.
Another goal, seeing how much is truly collaborative. Wish I could tell, but will give it a shot with some of my own additional secondary accounts, since no one seems to be on board with interactively testing.
Audience of one or so, heh... we proceed.
Well, I checked to find the links between the main page and the 'calendar of events' page, I needed to refresh or something. After all that, proud and all that it seemed to be just fine, I discovered I hadn't even checked my snap-in calendar I used. Geez, it needs to work! haha...
There is another calendar snap-in so I'll check it out FIRST before snapping it in this time.
I need to remember to hit the refresh button too, so I can see the finished product instead of fooling myself into thinking it didn't go in. (doh)
Just wanted to make a quick note that I found a response from one of the old-goers on the EDPG study egroup who I'd invited to join in on this project.
The person stated that they basically felt this endeavor was overkill for the effectiveness, or lack of, they view EDPG is having. In other words, the suggestion was to just stick to plain ol' email for the fact that there is nothing going on in the Protogrove.
I remain solid where I stand. I am finding the snap-in utilities are at worst, super simple and the webpage is WELL WORTH giving it a shot to build a website that should have been ages ago. I make no excuses, but an online presence is an essential one these days, in the information age.
There are several people who, while remaining at a distance, continue to observe our actions as an ADF Protogrove, even while there are those folks who would wish to attack my continued efforts.
Later I will give a brief opinion about what I think of 'people who run with the herd'.
To this point, I have gotten 3 log-ins, 3 responses, and one of those log-ins just looked didn't respond; therefore, a total of 4. One is willing to be at the user-end, another logged in but said nothing whatsoever, another logged in, then bowed out, stating he didn't have time, another wrote, stating he didn't have time right now.
Sunday, October 5, 2008
I spiffed up the blog with a few essentials, hoping it would help add some seemingly seamlessness to getting back to the main site somehow.
Apparently there are gadgets one can add, so I did add!
Slide show (although it was a package I didn't have to upload, I guess ones' own photos can be added in)
To cut all this short, you can go to www.edg-adf.org and refer to the link for the msn egroup where we currently have a full blown explanation as to what we have been and are currently doing. Or better, you may go to www.adf.org to find out more of the overview of our paths in the Neo-Druid way.
For now, the point of the work involved at hand is for the Protogrove's need for a better website with fuller content and utilities for its' members, and potential interested persons.
The Protogrove has been around since 2004. We once had the beginnings of a fairly nice website, but the member in charge of that endeavor suddenly left the Protogrove and ADF. We've continued to hold on to our domain www.edg-adf.org but have only maintained a modest one page on there along with the MSN egroups (general public: edpg egroup; and members only: edpg study egroup).
This online experience has been choppy, at best, with two separate egroups, open and private, and a single webpage. The MSN sites have been limiting and often difficult to either access or just plain not much fun other than the straight writing. The presentation has looked and been very dull for the most part.
The photo galleries are ok, but then the upload capacity filled up quickly, creating a need for me and a few to make more than one account in order to continue to upload photos.
The graphics is limiting in the present situation.
Adding videos and audios, slide show presentations, and powerpoints, is something the Google Apps, the Blogs and other utilities found on the Google areas are looking pretty good for.
The problem is figuring out how to work all this together as seamlessly as possible.
In the utilities, I'm finding it's necessary to log on to separate utilities in various areas.
As I become more familiar with how all this works and as I weave the website together, hopefully it will be discovered how there will be one log on and off area, and how to set up a user-friendly base for others to become a part of the the website's community.
Nothing turns me off more than to be visiting a website and find I hit a dead end because I have to 'create an account' in order to go any further.
on the blog profile, it told me to separate items I listed with commas. While I understood, I just wrote it the way I so chose. After I viewed it, it was apparent I was being cataloged into a data base, so I'm happy with my option to write fuller sentences, with extremely long desriptions and no commas. Let them slice and dice all that!
I sure wish folks from the EDPG study egroup would all get logged on so we can begin tinkering with these utilities and programs. Half are some what checking it out, not sure how many will end up being on board with this project yet.
Currently I'm using my own domain for developing work and experiments for the Enchanted Desert Protogrove, ADF.
I've invited fellow ADF'ers to join in with me, some whom are affiliated to EDPG, some who are distant.
Google Apps seems to have several utilities which should prove to be fairly simple to snap into place for the less computer ept or less time available folks like myself.
I will attempt to incorporate this blog as a log of the ongoing explorations we'll be doing; it will be included on the druidpolarity.com site which is currently open to invited testers and members of ADF and EDPG.